The Horrifying Date That Turned Into a Nightmare: Sade Robinson's Tragic Murder

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[00:01:41] On April 1st, 2024, Sade Robinson, a 19-year-old from Milwaukee, told an employee at her apartment building that she was looking forward to a date that evening.

[00:01:53] Just hours later, stills from a surveillance video captured Sade sitting next to a man at Twisted Fisherman, a local restaurant, before leaving with him.

[00:02:03] That would be the last time that anyone saw her alive.

[00:02:08] The following day, Sade's car was found burnt out in a parking lot, her clothes discarded in the trunk.

[00:02:15] But the horrors didn't end there.

[00:02:17] A human leg was discovered near the shores of Lake Michigan, and soon after, a foot matching the leg was found just a few miles away in Milwaukee.

[00:02:28] The investigation into Sade's disappearance would unravel a chilling and twisted nightmare, one that has left family, friends and the police searching for answers.

[00:02:39] Mostly, why would someone do something so horrific to this young lady who was nothing but a kind soul to everyone that she met?

[00:02:48] So, dim the lights, put your phone down, and listen as I dive deep into the shocking case of Sade Robinson, her final moments, the unsettling discoveries, and the ongoing search for justice against the man who took her life.

[00:03:03] So, let's jump right in.

[00:03:07] Sade Carlina Robinson was known for her curiosity and determination.

[00:03:11] Growing up in Milwaukee, her mother would say that she embraced life with enthusiasm, even as a young girl.

[00:03:19] In elementary school, she joined the Girl Scouts and was active in soccer.

[00:03:23] But her true passion was for the arts.

[00:03:26] Sade was a natural dancer.

[00:03:28] Her mother would recall how she lit up whenever she took the stage.

[00:03:33] But her creative talents didn't stop there.

[00:03:36] She also developed a love for rapping and performing, and even explored the world of ballroom dancing.

[00:03:42] In middle school, she took on a new challenge, joining the Junior Reserve Officers' Training Corps, JROTC.

[00:03:50] At the time, she even dreamed of one day joining the U.S. Air Force.

[00:03:54] As I said, this girl was determined to push her limits.

[00:03:59] As a teenager, Sade attended Riverside High School on Milwaukee's vibrant East Side, where she excelled not only academically, but also socially.

[00:04:10] She had a solid group of friends who would remain in her life even as an adult.

[00:04:15] Seriously, these were the kind of friends that every girl wishes she had in her life.

[00:04:20] But more on that later.

[00:04:22] Sade's drive and ambition were clear, so much so that she graduated a semester early in December 2021, walking alongside the class of 2022 to receive her diploma.

[00:04:34] After high school, Sade wasted no time in forging her future.

[00:04:40] She enrolled at Milwaukee Area Technical College, MATC, eager to pursue a degree in criminal justice of all things.

[00:04:48] All while balancing two jobs, one working at Pizza Shuttle on the East Side and the other at the Wisconsin Country Club on the Northwest Side.

[00:04:57] She worked hard so that she could live independently on her own, renting an apartment all by herself at the age of 19.

[00:05:06] At the country club, Sade was described by colleagues as having a smile that felt like a superpower.

[00:05:13] One that brightened the room and made everyone feel at ease.

[00:05:17] Another coworker admired her wisdom and strength, noting that she seemed far beyond her years.

[00:05:23] She was a special person, they shared.

[00:05:26] Even with the demands of two jobs, Sade tried to make time to go out and be social.

[00:05:33] Which is why, on April 1st, 2024, 19-year-old Sade made plans to go out on a date.

[00:05:39] Earlier on in the day, she had even expressed to an employee who worked at her building just how excited she was to go out on her first date with a much older man.

[00:05:50] A 33-year-old named Maxwell Anderson.

[00:05:54] It hasn't been made clear exactly how the unlikely pair would have met.

[00:05:58] I've read some reports that have stated that they were chatting on a dating site, a dating app.

[00:06:03] While others suggest that they may have met when Sade was at a local bar that Maxwell worked at.

[00:06:10] Sade often liked to go to this particular bar because they didn't check IDs.

[00:06:15] Remember, Sade, she was just 19 years old.

[00:06:18] And one has to wonder if she knew how much older Maxwell was when she accepted the date.

[00:06:23] Either way, at approximately 4.15pm that night, she texted Maxwell to make arrangements on where they were going to meet.

[00:06:32] Maxwell suggested that they meet at the Twisted Fisherman restaurant for dinner.

[00:06:36] This was a spot that Maxwell knew well because he had previously worked there.

[00:06:42] This spot also worked because he had to pick up a W-2 form from his previous manager.

[00:06:48] Sade agreed, saying that, yep, she was feeling seafood.

[00:06:51] They met at the Twisted Fisherman about an hour later, with Maxwell arriving first and telling the bartender that he was there for his first date with a young woman.

[00:07:01] He was wearing a red flannel coat with a grey hood, a black Carhartt t-shirt and dark jeans, with his hair pulled back into a ponytail.

[00:07:10] Sade arrived shortly after and joined him at the bar where they shared some food and a few drinks.

[00:07:16] She wore a black puffy coat over a white t-shirt and ripped blue jeans.

[00:07:22] Cameras at the restaurant would capture their interactions and everything seemed to be going as expected.

[00:07:28] They both appeared to be having a good time, engaged in conversation.

[00:07:33] At 6.30pm, they are seen leaving the restaurant and then heading towards Maxwell's car.

[00:07:39] They decided to head to another bar, called Duke's on Water, where they would be captured on their security camera having a few more drinks.

[00:07:48] While at Duke's, Sade sent a Snapchat out to her friends.

[00:07:52] The very last communication that Sade would ever send.

[00:07:57] Then, Maxwell and Sade, they are seen leaving the bar at 9.06pm.

[00:08:02] Somehow, Maxwell has convinced Sade to go back to his house on South 39th Street.

[00:08:09] Now, I was young once and I did things far more stupid than going back to a date's house.

[00:08:15] Sade did the right thing by first meeting her date at a public location.

[00:08:19] Unfortunately, Maxwell knew exactly what to do and say to get her to let her guard down.

[00:08:26] Still, Sade was a smart girl.

[00:08:29] She used an app called Life360, which is a location-sharing app.

[00:08:34] Meaning, her mother and several of her friends knew her location at all times.

[00:08:40] While this would not save Sade from the grips of this disgusting monster,

[00:08:45] it would help investigators to piece together what would happen to her that night.

[00:08:49] And what we know now is that Sade would walk into Maxwell's home and then would never leave again in one piece.

[00:08:57] The following day, on April 2nd, Sade was supposed to work a shift at Pizza Shuttle, but she didn't show up.

[00:09:06] Her manager, Romano, would say that this wasn't like her at all.

[00:09:10] He said, quote,

[00:09:11] We kind of knew something was up. We had been calling her all day.

[00:09:16] But no one could get a hold of Sade.

[00:09:18] Not her manager, not her mother, and not her friend, who has been identified as AJ in police documents.

[00:09:26] When no one was still able to touch base with Sade that evening,

[00:09:29] AJ walked into the police station at around 9pm and reported her friend as missing.

[00:09:34] She told the police that Sade wasn't answering her calls and that her last point of contact was the evening prior

[00:09:41] when she had posted that photo to Snapchat while at the bar Dukes on Water.

[00:09:46] Now, oftentimes, when an adult doesn't show up for work or they're not answering phone calls,

[00:09:52] this doesn't immediately raise the alarm for the police.

[00:09:56] Grown adults are allowed to fall off the map if they so choose.

[00:10:00] And oftentimes, those who do show up within the next following few days.

[00:10:06] However, Sade's friends and family didn't know at that time that on the same day they reported her missing,

[00:10:13] several very bizarre discoveries had been made by the police.

[00:10:18] Discoveries that would lead them to believe that something terrible may have happened to Sade Robinson.

[00:10:23] In the early morning hours of April 2nd,

[00:10:26] the Milwaukee Fire Department responded to reports of a vehicle on fire.

[00:10:31] It's a 2020 Honda Civic, registered to Sade Robinson.

[00:10:36] In the trunk of this burnt-out car, investigators would find remnants of a cell phone and clothing.

[00:10:42] Clothing that would later be identified as the ones Sade had worn during her date.

[00:10:48] Security camera footage would play a big role in this case, which is actually kind of unusual to see,

[00:10:54] despite the fact that in today's society we have security cameras just about everywhere tracking us.

[00:11:00] You wouldn't believe how many times these cameras don't function,

[00:11:04] or they record over important footage,

[00:11:07] or the footage comes out so blurry you don't know what's what.

[00:11:11] But in this case, a camera posted in the parking lot captured a white male

[00:11:16] walking away from the burning car at around 7.29 a.m.

[00:11:20] He's wearing a gray hoodie, and he's carrying a tan backpack.

[00:11:25] A witness would later say that he saw a male get out of the Honda Civic

[00:11:29] and toss a lighter into the car before walking away.

[00:11:33] Then the car went up in flames.

[00:11:36] But that wasn't the worst of it.

[00:11:38] At around 5.30 p.m. that same day, a human leg was found by a citizen at Warnemont Park

[00:11:45] down a 100-foot cliff near the shoreline next to a pump house.

[00:11:50] The leg, which appeared to belong to a black female, was severed just below the hip socket,

[00:11:56] and it appeared to have been sawed off.

[00:11:59] The toes on the feet had pink nail polish, and because the leg didn't appear to be decomposing,

[00:12:06] it had recently been severed from its owner.

[00:12:10] Later, a medical examiner would say that the leg belonged to someone approximately 5 feet tall.

[00:12:16] The top of the femur bone appeared to have been snapped off,

[00:12:20] while the amputation point showed signs that a sharp tool was used to saw the leg off.

[00:12:27] They would still need to send the leg to the lab for testing in order to identify who it belonged to,

[00:12:32] but it didn't look good in the investigation to find missing Sade Robinson.

[00:12:38] Lucky for investigators, there happened to be another security camera in the area of the park where the leg was found,

[00:12:45] one which captured someone entering the road headed towards the pump house at around 2.53 a.m.

[00:12:52] And as it would turn out, city workers reported that someone had used a car to ram open a gate to the service road leading to the pump house.

[00:13:01] Near the broken gate, investigators found pieces of a Honda Civic vehicle that would match Sade's car.

[00:13:09] Other video captured images of a human figure walking towards the cliff of the beach at around 3.02 a.m.

[00:13:17] Then, about an hour and a half later, the person returns to their vehicle and leaves the park.

[00:13:23] Milwaukee police conduct a welfare check at Sade's apartment, but no one answers the door.

[00:13:30] In speaking with some of the staff working at the apartment building, they learned that the last time they had seen Sade in the building was on April 1st,

[00:13:38] when she was talking about just how excited she was to go on that date.

[00:13:42] They released this information to the media in hopes of gaining any information from the public who may have seen Sade the night that she disappeared or since then.

[00:13:52] That's when another friend of Sade's calls in a tip that she had been tracking her location using the Life360 app.

[00:14:00] Again, great idea. I love this. Girls looking out for each other.

[00:14:05] According to the app, Sade, or at least her phone, was in the area of Warnemont Park at around 4.30 a.m. on April 2nd,

[00:14:14] the same spot where the human leg had been discovered.

[00:14:18] Investigators got a warrant for Sade's phone records, and this is when they found all of those text messages between Sade and her date, Maxwell Anderson.

[00:14:28] On April 4th, three days since Sade has been seen, law enforcement pull over Maxwell while he's driving in his black 2009 Hyundai Santa Fe, just a few blocks away from his house.

[00:14:40] In his vehicle, they find a hoodie that matches the one worn by the suspect who set Sade's car on fire.

[00:14:47] They also see what looks like human blood on the front passenger's side door speaker cover.

[00:14:53] This guy might be one of the worst criminals of all time.

[00:14:58] After taking him into custody, police execute a search warrant on his home and find even more incriminating evidence.

[00:15:07] They discovered blood on the bedding in one of the bedrooms, as well as blood on the walls leading down to the basement.

[00:15:14] They also find gasoline containers in his garage, which they believed he used to torch Sade's car.

[00:15:22] It's as if everything he did to try to hide evidence only made it easier for the police to track him down.

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[00:17:07] Now back to our story.

[00:17:08] So who is this criminal genius, Maxwell Anderson?

[00:17:15] This 33-year-old Milwaukee man had a history of legal troubles, including convictions for domestic abuse, disorderly conduct, and driving under the influence.

[00:17:26] Court documents also revealed ongoing concerns about his mental health and struggles with substance abuse.

[00:17:32] He's worked various roles in the service industry, primarily as a bartender and a security guard.

[00:17:39] His most recent job was at Victor's Nightclub, a bar that Sade was known to frequent, where a manager praised him as a hardworking and well-liked member of the team.

[00:17:50] However, he did have a troubled past.

[00:17:53] In 2014, he was involved in an altercation with a family member.

[00:17:58] While visiting family in Colorado, he got into it with a relative who had just returned home from work and found him acting erratically.

[00:18:07] When he was questioned about what was going on, he refused to answer.

[00:18:12] Instead, he began screaming at this relative and throwing things around the house.

[00:18:17] The relative ran into his bedroom and called his father, who in turn called the police.

[00:18:22] When officers arrived at the home, Maxwell stole this family member's vehicle and crashed it into a patio.

[00:18:29] He ended up getting into an altercation with another relative and broke his ribs.

[00:18:34] It's believed that he was likely under the influence, and he was charged with two misdemeanor counts of disorderly conduct, resulting in a $416 fine, which seems like a slap on the wrist to me.

[00:18:49] Clearly, it was not a deterrent of any kind, because the following year, he had more legal troubles.

[00:18:56] In 2015, again, he was staying with a relative, living in their basement for the last two months, but it wasn't really working out.

[00:19:04] This relative tried to lay down some ground rules about cleaning up after himself and constantly coming in and out of the home.

[00:19:12] This did not sit well with Maxwell, who suddenly became violent, throwing a glass, putting his fists through the wall, and smashing his relative's cell phone after he had tried to call 911 for help.

[00:19:25] During this altercation, Maxwell caused more than $1,300 worth of damage, and he was charged with four misdemeanors.

[00:19:32] He pled guilty to criminal damage to property, intimidating a witness and disorderly conduct, and domestic abuse, and he was given probation for a year.

[00:19:44] His behavior was only escalating, and yet another slap on the wrist.

[00:19:51] Maxwell went under the radar for the next few years.

[00:19:54] But then, in 2019, he was charged with battery and disorderly conduct after he was recorded on video attacking a man who had tried to intervene when he was seen yelling at a woman.

[00:20:06] This time, he was given one year of probation, which included terms where he had to keep a job and submit random drug tests.

[00:20:15] He also had to do 25 hours of volunteer service and pay $7,000 in restitution.

[00:20:21] In 2020, he purchased the home in Milwaukee, the one that he would use to do horrific things to an unsuspecting young woman.

[00:20:31] In the following years, he'd have several DUI charges, but nothing as violent as what he was preparing himself to do.

[00:20:39] On April 6th, five days after Sade went on that date from hell, more human remains would be found.

[00:20:47] Located near a playground in the vicinity where Sade's car had been found burned out,

[00:20:52] they discovered a human foot and more human flesh.

[00:20:56] They appeared to be from the same individual as the leg,

[00:21:00] with the foot having the same matching nail polish as the leg that had been found.

[00:21:05] The leg, the foot, and the other pieces of human flesh would be identified as belonging to Sade Robinson.

[00:21:13] While they would not be able to locate all the pieces of her body,

[00:21:17] the evidence would suggest that Sade was dead.

[00:21:21] Police arrested Maxwell Anderson and charged him with first-degree intentional homicide,

[00:21:27] mutilating a corpse, and arson of property other than a building.

[00:21:31] He has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

[00:21:33] The complaint against him read,

[00:21:52] While Maxwell Anderson has been completely uncooperative with the investigation,

[00:21:58] that didn't stop Sade's friends and family from organizing their own search parties

[00:22:04] to try to find the rest of her remains.

[00:22:06] And I truly cannot imagine the pain that one must feel from not being able to give her a proper burial.

[00:22:14] My message to the community and to everyone is to please keep searching for my baby.

[00:22:23] I need all of her.

[00:22:25] Her corpse was found.

[00:22:28] Her torso.

[00:22:32] Have they run tests?

[00:22:33] I did not ask to be chosen to be the voice for the community,

[00:22:38] and that my daughter was chosen as the angelic spirit to speak for all of the lost black and brown girls gone missing.

[00:22:47] Because Sade speaks to me daily.

[00:22:53] And we do not want this to happen to any other family of color,

[00:22:58] because this has been taking place for too long.

[00:23:01] While walking along an Illinois municipal beach,

[00:23:04] a citizen discovered a human arm.

[00:23:07] A coroner would use DNA to positively identify the arm as belonging to Sade.

[00:23:12] There would also be a torso discovered along a remote area of a beach in South Milwaukee,

[00:23:19] which is also believed to be Sade's.

[00:23:22] Piece by piece,

[00:23:24] her mother has had to be re-traumatized over the news that

[00:23:27] more of her daughter's body has been found.

[00:23:30] In June, Sade's family filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Maxwell Anderson,

[00:23:37] seeking damages for emotional distress.

[00:23:39] Now they're looking for compensation,

[00:23:41] as well as the proceeds from the sale of Maxwell's house,

[00:23:45] the house that Sade was allegedly killed in.

[00:23:48] They also allege that Maxwell's family removed property from the home,

[00:23:53] including pieces of key evidence,

[00:23:55] which may include a finger that they believe belonged to Sade.

[00:24:00] According to what is written in the lawsuit,

[00:24:03] quote,

[00:24:03] he knew or should have known that his actions would cause the death of Sade Robinson,

[00:24:09] and that as a direct result of his actions,

[00:24:12] Sade Robinson would suffer immense pain,

[00:24:15] and that her mother and sister would suffer in an indescribable way

[00:24:19] for the remainder of their lives at the loss of Sade Robinson.

[00:24:23] And the visual sight of seeing her body's remains located over time

[00:24:28] in decaying, decomposed pieces.

[00:24:31] In August, newly unsealed search warrants were released,

[00:24:35] and they detailed even more shocking information related to this case.

[00:24:40] There was a confidential informant who came forward to police,

[00:24:44] allegedly a friend of Maxwell's,

[00:24:46] and they said that Maxwell had plotted Sade's death about a month prior to going through with his plan.

[00:24:52] According to this informant statement,

[00:24:55] he was at Maxwell's residence on March 5th,

[00:24:58] and Maxwell told him that he had recently met a young lady,

[00:25:02] Sade,

[00:25:02] and he planned to kill her.

[00:25:05] His plan included bringing Sade back to his home,

[00:25:08] pulling a handgun on her,

[00:25:10] and then bringing her down to the basement.

[00:25:13] Allegedly, Maxwell showed him the space in his basement,

[00:25:16] which, by the way, pardon my language,

[00:25:18] looks like an absolute shithole.

[00:25:20] And then he said that he planned on shooting her

[00:25:23] and dismembering her there.

[00:25:25] He also allegedly said that he would get rid of her body by cutting it up

[00:25:30] and scattering pieces all over the city.

[00:25:33] This informant claimed to have seen three saws in that basement

[00:25:37] that Maxwell said that he would use.

[00:25:40] Now, I don't care how long you've been friends with someone.

[00:25:43] I can't imagine hearing this information

[00:25:46] and not immediately going to the police,

[00:25:49] especially knowing this guy's past violent criminal history.

[00:25:53] Nobody makes up this kind of story as a joke.

[00:25:57] If what this informant is saying is true,

[00:26:00] he had every opportunity to save Sade,

[00:26:03] and he chose not to.

[00:26:05] It's unfortunate because now,

[00:26:07] in exchange for his statement,

[00:26:09] he's not going to be held accountable in any way

[00:26:11] for his actions or lack thereof.

[00:26:14] Sade may not have even been the first woman

[00:26:17] that Maxwell targeted.

[00:26:19] Court documents would reveal that

[00:26:21] there was another young lady,

[00:26:23] a 24-year-old who had been on a bad date

[00:26:26] with Maxwell in February.

[00:26:28] She said that they had a few drinks

[00:26:30] and almost immediately,

[00:26:32] she began to feel sick, weak, and dizzy.

[00:26:36] This woman thought that

[00:26:37] she had probably been drugged.

[00:26:40] Perhaps Maxwell had plans

[00:26:42] to do more to this woman too,

[00:26:44] but changed his mind at the last minute.

[00:26:46] We'll never know.

[00:26:47] As of right now,

[00:26:49] Maxwell Anderson continues to maintain

[00:26:51] that he's innocent.

[00:26:53] He says that this informant is a liar.

[00:26:56] Since his bond was set at $5 million

[00:26:58] and he hasn't been able to pay it,

[00:27:01] he's been sitting behind bars

[00:27:02] since his arrest in April.

[00:27:04] His trial was supposed to begin on December 9th,

[00:27:07] but it's been delayed by several months.

[00:27:10] It's now set to move forward in May of 2025.

[00:27:14] According to his defense team,

[00:27:16] they want more time

[00:27:17] so that they can work

[00:27:18] with a computer forensics expert

[00:27:20] who says that

[00:27:21] they may have an alibi

[00:27:22] for Maxwell's whereabouts

[00:27:24] on the night of the murder.

[00:27:26] According to his defense attorney,

[00:27:28] quote,

[00:27:28] our expert believes

[00:27:29] that there's evidence

[00:27:30] on Mr. Anderson's phone

[00:27:32] that suggests

[00:27:33] he was using the internet

[00:27:34] presumably at his home

[00:27:36] during the time frame

[00:27:37] that another person

[00:27:38] would have been driving

[00:27:39] Mrs. Robinson's car around.

[00:27:41] They're certainly going to have

[00:27:43] an uphill battle

[00:27:44] with all of the surveillance footage

[00:27:46] and the GPS trackers

[00:27:48] in his phone and Sade's.

[00:27:50] Until then,

[00:27:52] this monster is off the streets

[00:27:53] while waiting for his trial.

[00:27:55] Sade may not have been

[00:27:57] his first target

[00:27:58] and if he wasn't caught,

[00:27:59] she may not have been his last.

[00:28:02] Now, as I wrap up tonight's episode,

[00:28:05] the heartbreaking truth remains.

[00:28:07] Maxwell continues to re-traumatize

[00:28:10] Sade's family

[00:28:10] by withholding crucial details,

[00:28:13] details that could bring them

[00:28:14] some peace

[00:28:15] and maybe even a sense of closure.

[00:28:18] By refusing to come forward

[00:28:20] with the truth

[00:28:21] of what happened to Sade,

[00:28:22] he's forcing her loved ones

[00:28:24] to relive the nightmare

[00:28:26] again and again,

[00:28:28] making this journey to justice

[00:28:29] even more painful.

[00:28:31] Sade doesn't deserve to be lost,

[00:28:34] not in life

[00:28:35] and certainly not in death

[00:28:36] because of Maxwell's

[00:28:38] malicious actions.

[00:28:39] Now, all eyes are on him.

[00:28:42] Will he finally choose

[00:28:43] to do the right thing,

[00:28:45] perhaps for the first time

[00:28:46] in his life?

[00:28:47] Or will he continue

[00:28:48] to let his evil agenda

[00:28:50] dictate the course of events?

[00:28:52] Only time will tell.

[00:28:54] Until then,

[00:28:55] we'll keep pushing for the truth.

[00:28:58] That's it for me tonight.

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[00:29:30] And I do want to address

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