Mischief Night Turns to Murder: Unraveling the Chilling Case of Martha Moxley
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Mischief Night Turns to Murder: Unraveling the Chilling Case of Martha Moxley

On October 30, 1975, the night before Halloween, known as Mischief Night, 15-year-old Martha Moxley joined her friends in the affluent Belle Haven neighborhood of Greenwich, Connecticut, for an evening of pranks and fun. Among her companions were Michael Skakel, 15, and his brother Tommy, 17, members of a prominent family connected to the Kennedys. But before midnight, Martha's life was brutally cut short. Her body was discovered the next morning under a pine tree near her home, brutally bludgeoned with a golf club that matched a set from the Skakel residence.

The investigation that followed was complex and contentious, with multiple suspects, conflicting alibis, and motives that spanned decades. Michael Skakel, a nephew of Ethel Skakel Kennedy, was eventually convicted of Martha's murder in 2002 but saw his conviction overturned and reinstated multiple times. Despite the legal battles, Martha's family continues to seek justice, leaving many questions unanswered: What really happened that fateful night? Was Michael Skakel truly responsible, or was he wrongly accused? Join me as I delve into the twists and turns of this infamous case, exploring the tangled web of evidence, family secrets, and the ongoing quest for truth.

Sources:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-killed-martha-moxley/ 

https://www.nytimes.com/article/skakel-moxley-murder-case.html 

https://www.historicmysteries.com/major-crimes/martha-moxley-murder/22636/

https://people.com/michael-skakel-files-lawsuit-after-martha-moxley-conviction-overturned-8421807 

https://archive.vanityfair.com/article/share/bee64560-eb0c-43d5-a794-285902b26d4e?itm_content=footer-recirc 

https://www.nytimes.com/1975/11/04/archives/classmates-are-writing-a-eulogy-for-slain-girl.html

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[00:02:19] Hey everyone, my name is Nikki Young and this is Serial Napper, the true crime podcast for naps.

[00:02:26] I'm back with another true crime story to lull you to sleep or perhaps to give you nightmares.

[00:02:31] This is episode 4 of another season of Serial Nightmare, a Halloween series that I do every year for the month of October.

[00:02:39] So everything I release this month will either be Halloween-related or a little bit more on the spooky side, but of course, always true crime.

[00:02:48] It was the night before Halloween, October 30th, 1975, also known as Mischief Night.

[00:02:55] An evening filled with pranks like throwing toilet paper on trees and egging houses.

[00:03:02] For 15-year-old Martha Moxley, it was an ordinary night of hanging out with her friends, including 15-year-old Michael Skakel and his 17-year-old brother Tommy.

[00:03:13] The Skakel boys were part of a wealthy, well-known family related to American political royalty, the Kennedys.

[00:03:20] Before the clock struck midnight, Martha would be violently murdered, her battered body found under a pine tree near her Bellhaven home the following morning.

[00:03:30] She had been bludgeoned with a golf club, one that would match a set from the Skakel home.

[00:03:36] It was a vicious attack that felt extremely personal, with several potential suspects, varying witness statements, alibis, and motives.

[00:03:47] What followed was a messy murder investigation and a trial that would take decades to unfold.

[00:03:54] So, dim the lights, put your phone down, and listen to the tragic unsolved murder of Martha Moxley,

[00:04:02] a beautiful life lost in a world of privilege, leading many to question if the wealthy truly are above the law.

[00:04:11] So, let's jump right in.

[00:04:14] Martha Moxley was known as the It Girl.

[00:04:17] Born on August 16th, 1960 in Oakland, California to her parents David and Dorothy,

[00:04:22] she's been described as a ray of sunshine by those who knew her.

[00:04:27] This California girl spent the majority of her life living in the hilly suburbs of Montclair, about an hour away from LA.

[00:04:35] She had a very active childhood, enjoying activities like ballet, piano, and the Girl Scouts.

[00:04:43] She was the kind of girl who needed a full social calendar in order to be happy.

[00:04:49] Martha absolutely thrived being around other people.

[00:04:53] So, basically, she was the complete opposite of who I am as a person.

[00:04:57] When she was in the 7th grade, her family, including her parents and older brother John,

[00:05:03] moved to Piedmont, where she attended junior high as an honor student.

[00:05:07] She was also voted the girl with the best personality by her classmates.

[00:05:12] Close family friend Rosemary would say,

[00:05:14] quote,

[00:05:15] She was very bright, in the gifted class, and her family felt that she might enjoy the challenge at a private school.

[00:05:23] Another one of her strengths was her ability to adapt to change,

[00:05:27] which was needed because after a short stint in Piedmont, her father was transferred to New York.

[00:05:33] The Moxley family moved into the quiet, upscale community of Bellhaven in Greenwich, Connecticut.

[00:05:40] They purchased a beautiful three-acre property in this gated community,

[00:05:45] feeling like it would be a safe place to continue raising their family.

[00:05:49] Bellhaven was home to wealthy families.

[00:05:52] Think CEOs, politicians, doctors, and lawyers.

[00:05:57] Now, as a military brat, I can testify to how challenging it is to move to a new school, especially as a teenager.

[00:06:04] High school is hard enough, but then having to start over at a place where you know no one?

[00:06:11] Friend groups at that point, they've already been established,

[00:06:15] especially if you're moving into an area where generations of families have lived.

[00:06:20] It's really tough, but Martha, she stepped right up to the challenge.

[00:06:26] She signed up for field hockey and basketball,

[00:06:29] she became the sports editor of the yearbook,

[00:06:32] and she was once again an honor student.

[00:06:35] She seemed to be thriving in her new life.

[00:06:39] The pretty blonde teenager with braces had also found a small friend group to fall in with.

[00:06:44] It was this friend group that she was hanging out with on the evening of October 30th, 1975,

[00:06:51] the night before Halloween.

[00:06:53] Now, it might be a regional thing because I've never heard of it,

[00:06:58] but the kids in the area called it Mischief Night.

[00:07:01] Basically, it was an evening of pranks,

[00:07:04] where the younger crowd would teepee trees and egg each other's houses,

[00:07:08] other silly little pranks like that.

[00:07:11] On this night, Martha was hanging out at the Skakel family home,

[00:07:15] which was just across the street from her own house.

[00:07:18] The Skakels were very wealthy.

[00:07:20] They had what's referred to as old money,

[00:07:24] inherited from the family's mining company.

[00:07:27] They were also related to American royalty, the Kennedys.

[00:07:31] Rushton Skakel, head of the household,

[00:07:33] he had a sister named Ethel,

[00:07:35] who was married to Robert Kennedy in 1950.

[00:07:38] The seven Skakel kids were cousins with the younger Kennedys,

[00:07:42] and they made sure that everyone around them knew it.

[00:07:46] The matriarch of the Skakel family, Anne,

[00:07:49] had recently died from cancer,

[00:07:51] and the patriarch, Rushton,

[00:07:53] he was struggling to parent their seven children,

[00:07:56] meaning he worked a lot,

[00:07:58] and then he took a lot of vacations,

[00:07:59] while the kids were left to do whatever they wanted to do.

[00:08:03] Needless to say,

[00:08:05] there was a lot of partying and underage drinking happening in the home.

[00:08:09] It's said that at just 13 years old,

[00:08:12] one of the boys, Michael,

[00:08:14] had already developed a drinking problem.

[00:08:16] They were rich, entitled,

[00:08:19] and left mostly to their own devices.

[00:08:22] What could possibly go wrong?

[00:08:24] Martha was a friend to all seven Skakel children,

[00:08:27] but on this night,

[00:08:28] she was hanging out with 15-year-old Michael Skakel

[00:08:31] and two other friends in Lincoln

[00:08:33] that was parked in their driveway.

[00:08:36] Michael and Martha were sitting in the front seat,

[00:08:38] with the other teens piled into the back of the car.

[00:08:41] It was around 9 p.m. that night,

[00:08:44] when older brother,

[00:08:45] 17-year-old Tommy,

[00:08:47] decided to join them.

[00:08:48] He squeezes into the front seat

[00:08:50] with Martha and Michael,

[00:08:51] and they all listen to music in the car

[00:08:54] until around 9.30 p.m.

[00:08:56] That's when two of the other Skakel boys

[00:08:58] come out of the house

[00:08:59] and say that they need the car

[00:09:01] to drive over to their cousin's house

[00:09:02] to watch the U.S. premiere

[00:09:04] of Monty Python's Flying Circus.

[00:09:07] Martha and her friends,

[00:09:09] along with Tommy,

[00:09:10] all get out of the car

[00:09:11] and go hang out elsewhere in the neighborhood.

[00:09:14] Michael stays behind

[00:09:15] and would later say

[00:09:17] that he went with his two brothers

[00:09:19] to go to his cousin's house.

[00:09:21] Now, the two other friends,

[00:09:22] with Martha and Tommy,

[00:09:24] they don't stay around too long

[00:09:26] because she and Tommy,

[00:09:28] they're getting really flirty

[00:09:29] and maybe a bit hot and heavy,

[00:09:32] playing around with each other,

[00:09:33] fooling around,

[00:09:34] and some making out.

[00:09:35] So these two other people,

[00:09:37] they take off.

[00:09:38] What happens after they leave,

[00:09:40] no one knows,

[00:09:41] but we do know that Martha

[00:09:43] would not return home that night,

[00:09:44] and she would never live

[00:09:46] to see the light of day.

[00:09:47] Around 1 a.m.,

[00:09:49] her mother notices

[00:09:50] that her daughter still isn't back

[00:09:52] and she begins to worry.

[00:09:53] So she starts calling

[00:09:54] all of her friends,

[00:09:56] but no one has seen

[00:09:57] or heard from Martha

[00:09:58] since they were all

[00:09:59] hanging out earlier in the evening.

[00:10:01] The following day,

[00:10:03] Martha still wasn't home

[00:10:04] and now her mother

[00:10:05] is completely distressed.

[00:10:07] She calls the police

[00:10:08] to alert them

[00:10:09] that her daughter was missing

[00:10:11] and then she went out

[00:10:12] looking for her.

[00:10:14] Dorothy knew that Martha

[00:10:15] had been over at the Skaggle house,

[00:10:16] so that's her first stop.

[00:10:18] According to Dorothy,

[00:10:20] Michael is the one

[00:10:21] who answers the door

[00:10:22] and he appears to be hungover.

[00:10:24] She asks if he has seen Martha,

[00:10:27] so he checks around their home

[00:10:28] and reports back to Dorothy

[00:10:29] that Martha was not there.

[00:10:31] Word spread quickly

[00:10:32] that Martha was missing

[00:10:33] and her friends began

[00:10:35] to organize groups

[00:10:36] to go out

[00:10:36] and look for her

[00:10:37] in the neighborhood.

[00:10:38] It was just before noon

[00:10:40] on Halloween day

[00:10:41] when she was found.

[00:10:43] Her battered body

[00:10:44] was discovered

[00:10:45] underneath a tree

[00:10:46] located on the back

[00:10:47] of her family's property.

[00:10:49] One of her friends

[00:10:50] had only just spotted the body

[00:10:52] because it had been shielded

[00:10:53] amongst tall grass.

[00:10:55] It was a bloody scene.

[00:10:58] Whatever had happened to her

[00:10:59] was very violent.

[00:11:01] Her light blonde hair

[00:11:02] was unrecognizable

[00:11:03] because it was stained red.

[00:11:06] Her pants were pulled down

[00:11:07] to her knees,

[00:11:08] but later tests would reveal

[00:11:10] that she hadn't been

[00:11:11] sexually assaulted.

[00:11:12] The police were called

[00:11:14] and they quickly set up

[00:11:15] a crime scene parameter.

[00:11:16] There was evidence

[00:11:18] that Martha had been dragged

[00:11:19] from her driveway

[00:11:20] over to the tree

[00:11:21] where her body

[00:11:22] had been found.

[00:11:23] Near the driveway,

[00:11:25] investigators located

[00:11:26] a piece of the murder weapon.

[00:11:28] It was the head

[00:11:28] of a golf club.

[00:11:30] Martha Moxley

[00:11:31] had been bludgeoned

[00:11:32] to death

[00:11:33] so violently

[00:11:34] that part of the shaft

[00:11:35] of the golf club

[00:11:36] had broken off

[00:11:37] and then it had been used

[00:11:39] to stab her in the neck.

[00:11:40] The sheer rage

[00:11:41] that was showed

[00:11:42] in this attack

[00:11:43] was shocking.

[00:11:44] Who would want

[00:11:45] to hurt the California girl

[00:11:47] that everyone seemed

[00:11:48] to love?

[00:11:49] They lived in a safe,

[00:11:50] secure, upscale neighborhood.

[00:11:52] Much of the community

[00:11:53] felt like it had

[00:11:55] to be an outsider.

[00:11:56] It couldn't possibly

[00:11:57] be one of them.

[00:11:59] Investigators continued

[00:12:00] searching the neighboring

[00:12:01] properties for

[00:12:02] any other evidence

[00:12:03] that may have been discarded.

[00:12:05] And that's when they find

[00:12:06] a matching golf club

[00:12:08] on the Skakel property.

[00:12:09] It was clearly

[00:12:11] from the same set of clubs

[00:12:12] that the one

[00:12:13] that was used

[00:12:14] to kill Martha was from.

[00:12:15] When they questioned

[00:12:16] the Skakel family,

[00:12:17] they learned that

[00:12:19] this particular golf set

[00:12:20] was owned by Ann Skakel

[00:12:22] who had passed away

[00:12:23] two years prior.

[00:12:24] Clearly,

[00:12:25] it wasn't Ann

[00:12:26] who had last used it.

[00:12:27] The police questioned

[00:12:29] both 15-year-old

[00:12:30] Michael Skakel

[00:12:31] and 17-year-old

[00:12:32] Thomas Skakel.

[00:12:33] Both admitted

[00:12:34] that they had been

[00:12:35] with Martha

[00:12:36] earlier on in the evening.

[00:12:37] Based on statements

[00:12:39] made by neighbors

[00:12:40] who had heard

[00:12:40] their dogs barking

[00:12:41] around the time

[00:12:42] of the murder,

[00:12:43] it was believed

[00:12:43] that Martha

[00:12:44] had been killed

[00:12:45] sometime between

[00:12:46] 9.30 and 10pm.

[00:12:48] Michael told the police

[00:12:50] that the last time

[00:12:51] he saw Martha

[00:12:52] was around 9.30

[00:12:53] when he left

[00:12:54] with his brothers

[00:12:55] to go to his cousin

[00:12:56] Jimmy's home.

[00:12:57] Martha,

[00:12:58] her two friends,

[00:12:59] and his older brother

[00:13:00] Tommy

[00:13:00] all stayed behind.

[00:13:02] Tommy also reported

[00:13:03] that it was shortly

[00:13:05] after 9.30pm

[00:13:06] that he last saw Martha.

[00:13:08] The two were

[00:13:09] playfully goofing

[00:13:10] around for a bit

[00:13:10] after getting

[00:13:11] out of the car,

[00:13:12] but then he decided

[00:13:13] that it was time

[00:13:14] to go inside

[00:13:14] to write a report

[00:13:15] on Abraham Lincoln

[00:13:17] for school.

[00:13:18] Though police

[00:13:19] would later learn

[00:13:20] this whole story

[00:13:21] about the Abraham

[00:13:22] Lincoln report

[00:13:23] was bogus,

[00:13:24] Tommy did have

[00:13:25] a solid alibi.

[00:13:26] He had been seen

[00:13:28] inside of his home

[00:13:29] around 10pm

[00:13:30] by Ken Littleton.

[00:13:31] Now,

[00:13:32] Ken had very recently

[00:13:33] been hired as a tutor,

[00:13:35] and he had just

[00:13:36] moved into the

[00:13:36] Skakel home.

[00:13:37] He confirmed

[00:13:38] to the police

[00:13:39] that Tommy

[00:13:40] was at the home

[00:13:40] around 10pm

[00:13:41] and that the two

[00:13:42] of them were

[00:13:43] watching TV together.

[00:13:44] He also reported

[00:13:46] that Tommy

[00:13:46] was acting

[00:13:47] very normal,

[00:13:48] like nothing was wrong

[00:13:49] or anything had happened.

[00:13:50] It's difficult

[00:13:51] to imagine

[00:13:52] that a person

[00:13:53] just having committed

[00:13:54] such a violent

[00:13:55] and bloody murder

[00:13:56] would be able

[00:13:57] to keep

[00:13:57] a calm composure.

[00:13:59] Still,

[00:14:00] Tommy was

[00:14:01] the last person

[00:14:02] to see Martha alive.

[00:14:03] As investigators

[00:14:05] began to speak

[00:14:05] to Martha's

[00:14:06] friends and neighbors,

[00:14:08] they have trouble

[00:14:09] identifying

[00:14:09] a particular suspect.

[00:14:11] The Skakel family

[00:14:13] appeared to have

[00:14:14] alibis backed up

[00:14:15] by witnesses,

[00:14:16] yet something

[00:14:17] still felt

[00:14:18] a little off

[00:14:19] about their stories.

[00:14:20] And what about

[00:14:21] the murder weapon

[00:14:22] coming from their house?

[00:14:24] Police were also

[00:14:25] learning about

[00:14:26] the complicated

[00:14:26] relationship

[00:14:27] between Martha

[00:14:28] and Tommy.

[00:14:29] It was pretty

[00:14:30] well known

[00:14:31] that Tommy

[00:14:32] had a crush

[00:14:32] on Martha

[00:14:33] and he wanted

[00:14:34] to date her,

[00:14:35] but she didn't

[00:14:36] necessarily feel

[00:14:37] the same way.

[00:14:38] Martha was also

[00:14:40] casually dating

[00:14:41] a boy named

[00:14:41] Peter at the time.

[00:14:43] This was backed

[00:14:44] up in diary entries

[00:14:46] written by Martha

[00:14:47] shortly before

[00:14:48] her death.

[00:14:48] One entry

[00:14:50] from September 12,

[00:14:51] 1975

[00:14:52] read,

[00:14:52] Dear Diary,

[00:14:54] Today was nothing

[00:14:56] extra special

[00:14:56] at school.

[00:14:57] Peter was being

[00:14:59] his usual self.

[00:15:01] Me,

[00:15:01] Jackie,

[00:15:02] Michael,

[00:15:03] Tom,

[00:15:03] Hope,

[00:15:04] Maureen,

[00:15:04] and Andra

[00:15:05] went driving

[00:15:05] in Tom's car.

[00:15:07] I drove a little

[00:15:08] and then I was

[00:15:09] practically sitting

[00:15:09] on Tom's lap

[00:15:10] because I was

[00:15:12] only steering.

[00:15:13] He kept putting

[00:15:14] his hand on my knee.

[00:15:16] I drove some more

[00:15:17] and Margie and I

[00:15:18] kept yelling

[00:15:19] out of the sunroof

[00:15:20] and then we went

[00:15:21] to Friendly's

[00:15:21] and Michael treated me

[00:15:23] and he got me

[00:15:24] a double

[00:15:24] but I only wanted

[00:15:25] a single,

[00:15:26] so I threw

[00:15:27] the top scoop

[00:15:28] out the window.

[00:15:29] Then I was

[00:15:30] driving again

[00:15:31] and Tom put

[00:15:32] his arm around me.

[00:15:33] He kept doing

[00:15:34] stuff like that.

[00:15:36] Jesus,

[00:15:37] if Peter ever

[00:15:37] found out,

[00:15:38] I would be dead.

[00:15:39] I think Jackie

[00:15:40] really likes Michael

[00:15:41] and I think maybe

[00:15:43] he likes her

[00:15:44] maybe because

[00:15:45] he was drunk

[00:15:45] but I don't know.

[00:15:48] Speaking of Peter

[00:15:49] because obviously

[00:15:50] we always look

[00:15:51] to the significant

[00:15:52] other first,

[00:15:53] he had an alibi

[00:15:54] for the night

[00:15:55] of the murder.

[00:15:56] His mother

[00:15:57] had asked him

[00:15:57] if he'd like

[00:15:58] to maybe borrow

[00:15:59] the car

[00:15:59] to go hang out

[00:16:00] with Martha

[00:16:00] that evening

[00:16:01] but he didn't

[00:16:02] have a valid

[00:16:03] driver's license

[00:16:04] and he had

[00:16:05] smoked some pot

[00:16:06] so he didn't

[00:16:07] want to risk it

[00:16:07] and he ended up

[00:16:08] staying home

[00:16:09] watching TV

[00:16:10] before falling asleep.

[00:16:12] This would be

[00:16:13] backed up

[00:16:13] by his mother

[00:16:14] and by passing

[00:16:15] a lie detector test.

[00:16:17] I just wanted

[00:16:18] to mention this

[00:16:18] now because

[00:16:19] obviously

[00:16:20] if perhaps

[00:16:21] he had caught

[00:16:22] Martha and Tommy

[00:16:23] together,

[00:16:24] he may have

[00:16:25] had a motive.

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[00:18:36] Now back

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[00:18:39] In another

[00:18:40] entry she

[00:18:41] wrote quote

[00:18:42] Michael was

[00:18:43] so totally

[00:18:44] out of it

[00:18:44] he was being

[00:18:45] a real

[00:18:46] asshole in

[00:18:46] his actions

[00:18:47] and words.

[00:18:48] He kept

[00:18:49] telling me

[00:18:49] that I was

[00:18:50] leading Tom

[00:18:51] on when I

[00:18:51] don't like

[00:18:52] him except

[00:18:52] as a friend.

[00:18:53] I said

[00:18:54] well how

[00:18:55] about you

[00:18:56] and Jackie?

[00:18:56] You keep

[00:18:57] telling me

[00:18:58] that you

[00:18:58] don't like

[00:18:58] her and

[00:18:59] you're all

[00:19:00] over her.

[00:19:00] He doesn't

[00:19:01] understand that

[00:19:02] he can be

[00:19:02] nice to

[00:19:03] her without

[00:19:03] hanging all

[00:19:04] over her.

[00:19:05] Michael jumps

[00:19:06] to conclusions.

[00:19:07] I can't

[00:19:08] be friends

[00:19:08] with Tom

[00:19:08] just because

[00:19:09] I talk

[00:19:10] to him.

[00:19:10] It doesn't

[00:19:11] mean I

[00:19:11] like him.

[00:19:12] I really

[00:19:13] have to

[00:19:13] stop going

[00:19:14] over there.

[00:19:15] The police

[00:19:16] didn't have

[00:19:16] any evidence

[00:19:17] that pointed

[00:19:18] to Tommy

[00:19:18] or anyone

[00:19:19] else in

[00:19:19] particular.

[00:19:20] So at

[00:19:21] that point

[00:19:21] no arrests

[00:19:22] were made.

[00:19:23] Still the

[00:19:24] investigation

[00:19:25] continued.

[00:19:26] Police looked

[00:19:27] closely at

[00:19:28] the Skakel

[00:19:28] tutor Ken

[00:19:29] Littleton.

[00:19:30] Shortly

[00:19:31] after

[00:19:31] Martha's

[00:19:31] murder,

[00:19:32] he was

[00:19:33] fired by

[00:19:33] the family

[00:19:34] and his

[00:19:34] life quickly

[00:19:35] went downhill.

[00:19:37] He began

[00:19:38] to drink,

[00:19:38] do drugs,

[00:19:39] and he

[00:19:40] was arrested

[00:19:40] for petty

[00:19:41] crime.

[00:19:42] Maybe

[00:19:43] the guilt

[00:19:43] of killing

[00:19:44] Martha

[00:19:44] was eating

[00:19:45] him alive.

[00:19:46] But what

[00:19:47] possible motive

[00:19:48] did he have?

[00:19:49] He didn't

[00:19:50] even know

[00:19:50] the young

[00:19:51] girl and

[00:19:52] with how

[00:19:52] violent

[00:19:52] the crime

[00:19:53] was,

[00:19:54] police

[00:19:54] thought that

[00:19:55] the killer

[00:19:55] was likely

[00:19:56] someone who

[00:19:57] was close

[00:19:57] to her.

[00:19:58] It felt

[00:19:58] very personal.

[00:19:59] The years

[00:20:01] would pass

[00:20:01] and Martha's

[00:20:02] killing went

[00:20:03] unsolved.

[00:20:04] And then,

[00:20:05] another case

[00:20:06] related to the

[00:20:07] Skakel and

[00:20:08] the Kennedy

[00:20:08] family,

[00:20:09] it would hit

[00:20:10] the news,

[00:20:10] sparking a

[00:20:11] renewed interest

[00:20:12] in Martha's

[00:20:13] murder,

[00:20:14] which was now

[00:20:14] a cold case.

[00:20:16] William Kennedy

[00:20:17] Smith was charged

[00:20:18] with rape in

[00:20:19] 1991.

[00:20:20] Because of the

[00:20:21] defendant's last

[00:20:22] name, the

[00:20:23] trial would

[00:20:24] make headline

[00:20:24] news worldwide.

[00:20:26] rumors began

[00:20:27] to swirl

[00:20:28] that maybe

[00:20:28] this Kennedy

[00:20:29] family member

[00:20:30] was connected

[00:20:31] to Martha's

[00:20:31] death.

[00:20:32] There were

[00:20:33] even false

[00:20:33] allegations made

[00:20:34] that he was

[00:20:35] at the Skakel

[00:20:36] home the

[00:20:37] night of the

[00:20:37] murder.

[00:20:38] Ultimately,

[00:20:39] William Kennedy

[00:20:40] Smith was

[00:20:40] acquitted,

[00:20:41] and the rumors

[00:20:42] of his

[00:20:43] involvement in

[00:20:43] Martha's

[00:20:44] murder,

[00:20:44] they all

[00:20:45] died down,

[00:20:45] but the

[00:20:46] public pressed

[00:20:47] the police

[00:20:47] to find

[00:20:48] Martha's

[00:20:49] real killer.

[00:20:50] Without any

[00:20:51] new information

[00:20:52] or tips,

[00:20:54] investigators

[00:20:54] didn't really

[00:20:55] have any

[00:20:56] avenues to

[00:20:57] pursue,

[00:20:58] so they

[00:20:58] created a

[00:20:59] tip hotline

[00:21:00] and they

[00:21:00] announced a

[00:21:01] reward for

[00:21:01] any information

[00:21:02] leading to

[00:21:03] an arrest.

[00:21:04] While the

[00:21:05] police are

[00:21:05] reviewing their

[00:21:06] files and

[00:21:07] following up

[00:21:07] with any

[00:21:08] new potential

[00:21:08] witnesses,

[00:21:10] the Skakel

[00:21:10] family hires

[00:21:11] their own

[00:21:12] investigator.

[00:21:13] They want

[00:21:14] to get ahead

[00:21:15] of this whole

[00:21:15] thing,

[00:21:16] knowing that

[00:21:16] both Tommy

[00:21:17] and Michael

[00:21:18] are pretty

[00:21:19] much suspect

[00:21:20] number one

[00:21:21] and number

[00:21:21] two as

[00:21:22] being two

[00:21:23] of the last

[00:21:23] people to

[00:21:24] see Martha

[00:21:25] alive.

[00:21:26] The information

[00:21:27] discovered in

[00:21:27] this private

[00:21:28] investigation would

[00:21:29] be compiled

[00:21:30] into a file

[00:21:31] known as

[00:21:31] the Sutton

[00:21:32] Report,

[00:21:33] and it was

[00:21:34] full of new

[00:21:35] shocking revelations

[00:21:36] that would

[00:21:37] change things

[00:21:37] up completely.

[00:21:39] Both Tommy

[00:21:40] and Michael's

[00:21:41] stories that they

[00:21:42] had initially

[00:21:43] told the police

[00:21:44] had changed.

[00:21:45] Originally,

[00:21:46] Tommy told

[00:21:47] police that

[00:21:47] he said

[00:21:48] goodbye to

[00:21:48] Martha and

[00:21:49] headed inside

[00:21:50] to work on

[00:21:50] that school

[00:21:51] report at

[00:21:52] around 9.30

[00:21:53] p.m., but

[00:21:54] when interviewed

[00:21:55] by the Sutton

[00:21:55] investigators,

[00:21:57] he claimed it

[00:21:57] was later than

[00:21:58] that and that

[00:21:59] he and Martha

[00:22:00] had spent

[00:22:01] around 20

[00:22:02] minutes making

[00:22:02] out getting

[00:22:03] hot and heavy,

[00:22:05] which would

[00:22:06] line up with

[00:22:06] Ken Littleton's

[00:22:07] report that he

[00:22:08] saw Tommy

[00:22:09] inside the

[00:22:09] house around

[00:22:10] 10 p.m.,

[00:22:11] but it does

[00:22:12] leave that half

[00:22:13] an hour gap of

[00:22:14] time that is

[00:22:14] kind of

[00:22:15] unaccounted

[00:22:15] for.

[00:22:16] Most shockingly

[00:22:17] was Michael's

[00:22:18] news story.

[00:22:19] His official

[00:22:20] statement to

[00:22:21] the police

[00:22:21] said that he

[00:22:22] went with his

[00:22:23] two brothers

[00:22:23] to go to

[00:22:24] his cousin

[00:22:24] Jimmy's house

[00:22:25] and he

[00:22:26] didn't return

[00:22:27] home until

[00:22:27] around 11.30

[00:22:28] p.m.

[00:22:29] when he went

[00:22:29] directly to

[00:22:30] bed, but

[00:22:31] that wasn't

[00:22:32] true.

[00:22:33] Now Michael

[00:22:34] said that he

[00:22:35] arrived home

[00:22:36] and he was

[00:22:36] drunk and

[00:22:37] horny, so

[00:22:38] he decided to

[00:22:38] climb a tree

[00:22:39] located just

[00:22:40] outside of

[00:22:41] Martha's

[00:22:41] bedroom window

[00:22:42] and then he

[00:22:43] masturbated.

[00:22:45] There's actually

[00:22:46] an audio

[00:22:46] recording of

[00:22:47] Michael himself

[00:22:48] talking about

[00:22:49] the situation.

[00:22:50] In the 90s,

[00:22:51] he was working

[00:22:52] on an

[00:22:52] autobiography

[00:22:53] called

[00:22:53] Dead Man

[00:22:54] Talking,

[00:22:55] A Kennedy

[00:22:55] Cousin Comes

[00:22:56] Clean,

[00:22:57] and in this

[00:22:58] audio recording,

[00:22:59] he could be

[00:22:59] heard saying,

[00:23:00] quote,

[00:23:01] I pulled my

[00:23:02] pants down.

[00:23:03] I masturbated

[00:23:04] for 30 seconds

[00:23:05] in the tree,

[00:23:06] and I remember

[00:23:07] thinking,

[00:23:07] oh my god,

[00:23:08] I hope to god

[00:23:09] nobody saw me

[00:23:10] jerk off.

[00:23:10] Then I woke

[00:23:12] up to Mrs.

[00:23:13] Moxley saying,

[00:23:13] Michael,

[00:23:14] have you seen

[00:23:15] Martha?

[00:23:15] And I was

[00:23:16] like, oh my

[00:23:17] god, did they

[00:23:17] see me last

[00:23:18] night?

[00:23:18] This recording

[00:23:19] would later

[00:23:20] become a

[00:23:21] contentious piece

[00:23:22] of evidence.

[00:23:23] It didn't

[00:23:24] look good for

[00:23:25] Michael, and it

[00:23:26] didn't help

[00:23:26] that now,

[00:23:27] one-two years

[00:23:28] later, there

[00:23:29] were people

[00:23:30] coming forward

[00:23:31] claiming that

[00:23:31] Michael had

[00:23:32] admitted to

[00:23:33] murdering

[00:23:33] Martha Moxley.

[00:23:35] John Higgins

[00:23:36] and Gregory

[00:23:37] Coleman attended

[00:23:37] a reform school

[00:23:38] with Michael

[00:23:39] when they were

[00:23:40] in the 70s.

[00:23:42] Michael had

[00:23:43] been sent to

[00:23:43] this residential

[00:23:44] substance abuse

[00:23:45] treatment center

[00:23:46] for youths when

[00:23:47] he was caught

[00:23:47] drinking and

[00:23:48] driving at

[00:23:49] just 17 years

[00:23:50] old.

[00:23:51] Remember,

[00:23:51] Michael is the

[00:23:52] one that allegedly

[00:23:53] had a drinking

[00:23:54] problem at

[00:23:55] just 13.

[00:23:57] Higgins alleged

[00:23:58] that Michael had

[00:23:59] confided in him

[00:24:00] about his memory

[00:24:01] from the night

[00:24:01] of the murder.

[00:24:02] According to

[00:24:03] Higgins,

[00:24:04] Michael told him

[00:24:05] that he remembered

[00:24:06] rummaging through

[00:24:07] the family's golf

[00:24:08] clubs that were

[00:24:08] stored in the

[00:24:09] garage,

[00:24:10] and then he

[00:24:10] remembers running

[00:24:11] through tall grass

[00:24:12] and seeing some

[00:24:14] pine trees.

[00:24:14] He said that he

[00:24:16] couldn't remember

[00:24:17] if he had actually

[00:24:18] killed Martha,

[00:24:19] but he thought

[00:24:20] maybe he had.

[00:24:23] Coleman claimed

[00:24:24] that Michael would

[00:24:24] brag about his

[00:24:25] family's wealth

[00:24:26] and status,

[00:24:27] going as far as

[00:24:29] to say that he

[00:24:30] could get away

[00:24:30] with murder if

[00:24:31] he wanted to.

[00:24:32] According to

[00:24:33] Coleman,

[00:24:34] Michael said

[00:24:35] something to the

[00:24:35] effect of,

[00:24:36] quote,

[00:24:36] I'm going to

[00:24:37] get away with

[00:24:38] murder.

[00:24:39] I'm a Kennedy.

[00:24:40] He also allegedly

[00:24:41] confessed that he

[00:24:42] beat Martha with

[00:24:43] the golf club after

[00:24:45] he had made a move

[00:24:45] on her and she

[00:24:47] rejected him.

[00:24:48] With these witness

[00:24:49] statements and

[00:24:50] Michael's new story

[00:24:51] of what happened

[00:24:52] that night,

[00:24:53] investigators felt

[00:24:54] like they finally

[00:24:55] had enough evidence

[00:24:56] to pursue murder

[00:24:57] charges.

[00:24:58] Charges against

[00:24:59] Michael Skakel,

[00:25:00] who was now 41

[00:25:01] years old.

[00:25:02] The prosecution

[00:25:03] alleged that his

[00:25:05] motive was rage

[00:25:06] and jealousy.

[00:25:07] Martha had been

[00:25:08] fooling around

[00:25:09] with Michael's

[00:25:10] older brother,

[00:25:10] Tommy, that

[00:25:11] evening.

[00:25:12] But when Michael

[00:25:13] made a move on

[00:25:14] her, she rejected

[00:25:15] him, she turned

[00:25:16] him down.

[00:25:16] And this enraged

[00:25:18] him, so he

[00:25:19] retrieved a golf

[00:25:20] club from his

[00:25:21] garage and then

[00:25:22] he viciously beat

[00:25:23] her, according to

[00:25:25] the prosecution.

[00:25:26] They called

[00:25:27] several witnesses

[00:25:28] who all told the

[00:25:29] jury that Michael

[00:25:30] had either confided

[00:25:31] in them that he

[00:25:32] had killed Martha

[00:25:33] or he implied

[00:25:34] that he was

[00:25:35] involved.

[00:25:36] There were also

[00:25:37] concerns with his

[00:25:38] changing story.

[00:25:39] First, he went

[00:25:40] with his brothers

[00:25:41] in the car to his

[00:25:42] cousin's house,

[00:25:43] came home and

[00:25:44] went to bed,

[00:25:44] long after Martha

[00:25:46] had allegedly

[00:25:47] been killed.

[00:25:48] Then, after

[00:25:49] returning from

[00:25:50] his cousin's

[00:25:50] house, he was

[00:25:51] drunk, he climbed

[00:25:52] a tree near

[00:25:53] Martha's home,

[00:25:54] and he

[00:25:54] masturbated.

[00:25:56] However, there

[00:25:56] was a witness

[00:25:57] called to the

[00:25:58] stand that even

[00:25:59] further discredited

[00:26:00] Michael.

[00:26:01] Andrea Shakespeare

[00:26:03] was at the

[00:26:04] Skakel home that

[00:26:04] night, and she

[00:26:05] said that Michael

[00:26:06] never left with his

[00:26:07] brothers.

[00:26:08] He stayed behind.

[00:26:10] The prosecution

[00:26:11] also played that

[00:26:12] damning audio

[00:26:13] recording of

[00:26:14] Michael where he

[00:26:15] says,

[00:26:15] Oh my god, did

[00:26:17] they see me last

[00:26:18] night?

[00:26:18] Michael didn't

[00:26:19] really have much

[00:26:20] of a defense,

[00:26:21] despite hiring a

[00:26:23] bigwig expensive

[00:26:24] lawyer.

[00:26:25] All he really had

[00:26:26] was his denial

[00:26:27] that he did it.

[00:26:28] It took the jury

[00:26:29] just four days to

[00:26:30] convict Michael of

[00:26:31] Martha's murder, and

[00:26:33] sentenced him to

[00:26:34] 20 years to life in

[00:26:35] prison.

[00:26:36] But not everyone

[00:26:38] believed that Michael

[00:26:39] was the real killer.

[00:26:40] His cousin, Robert

[00:26:42] Kennedy Jr., spoke

[00:26:43] publicly at length

[00:26:44] about how he

[00:26:46] believed Michael

[00:26:46] was innocent, and

[00:26:48] that his trial was

[00:26:49] a miscarriage of

[00:26:50] justice.

[00:26:51] His main point of

[00:26:52] contention was that

[00:26:53] audio clip that was

[00:26:54] played to the jury,

[00:26:55] which made it appear

[00:26:57] as if Michael

[00:26:57] himself was confessing

[00:26:59] to the murder.

[00:27:00] The portion of the

[00:27:01] audio that was

[00:27:02] played was, quote,

[00:27:03] Oh my god, did

[00:27:04] they see me last

[00:27:05] night?

[00:27:05] But the prosecution

[00:27:07] left out the parts

[00:27:08] where he's actually

[00:27:09] referring to getting

[00:27:10] caught masturbating

[00:27:11] in that tree, not

[00:27:12] getting caught

[00:27:13] killing Martha.

[00:27:14] Robert Kennedy Jr.

[00:27:16] began a crusade

[00:27:17] to find the real

[00:27:18] killer because he

[00:27:19] did not believe

[00:27:20] that Michael was

[00:27:21] the one.

[00:27:22] He started doing

[00:27:23] media interviews and

[00:27:24] speaking publicly

[00:27:25] about the matter.

[00:27:26] He even wrote a

[00:27:27] book, and he was

[00:27:28] calling for a

[00:27:29] retrial.

[00:27:30] That's when he

[00:27:31] received a tip from

[00:27:32] a man named Tony

[00:27:34] Bryant, who was

[00:27:35] Michael's former

[00:27:36] classmate.

[00:27:37] Tony allegedly

[00:27:38] confessed to being

[00:27:39] involved in

[00:27:40] Martha's murder.

[00:27:41] In a recorded

[00:27:42] confession, he

[00:27:43] alleged that on

[00:27:44] the night in

[00:27:45] question, he and

[00:27:46] two friends, Al

[00:27:48] Hasbrook and

[00:27:48] Burton Tinsley,

[00:27:50] they made a trip

[00:27:51] to Belhaven,

[00:27:52] Martha's gated

[00:27:53] community.

[00:27:54] According to

[00:27:55] Tony, Al was

[00:27:56] completely obsessed

[00:27:57] with Martha, and

[00:27:58] the two had met

[00:27:59] on a few different

[00:28:00] occasions, including

[00:28:01] at a dance.

[00:28:02] Tony said that Al

[00:28:04] and Burton had

[00:28:05] stolen some golf

[00:28:06] clubs from the

[00:28:06] Skakel backyard

[00:28:07] earlier in the

[00:28:08] night, and now

[00:28:09] the two were

[00:28:10] talking about how

[00:28:11] they wanted to

[00:28:11] hurt someone.

[00:28:12] Tony claimed to

[00:28:13] not want anything

[00:28:14] to do with whatever

[00:28:15] they had planned, so

[00:28:17] he says he left.

[00:28:18] But later that

[00:28:19] night, when he

[00:28:20] met up with Al and

[00:28:20] Burton again, the

[00:28:22] two confessed to

[00:28:23] going through a

[00:28:24] third plan and

[00:28:24] hurting someone.

[00:28:25] After hearing about

[00:28:27] Martha's body being

[00:28:28] found the next

[00:28:28] morning, he put the

[00:28:30] pieces together.

[00:28:30] It had to have

[00:28:32] been Al and

[00:28:33] Burton who killed

[00:28:33] her.

[00:28:34] With this new

[00:28:35] confession, Michael

[00:28:37] filed an appeal for

[00:28:38] a new trial, but it

[00:28:40] was denied.

[00:28:41] It didn't help that

[00:28:42] Tony was no longer

[00:28:44] willing to cooperate

[00:28:44] when he learned that

[00:28:45] he would have to

[00:28:46] testify in court

[00:28:47] without being

[00:28:48] offered any sort of

[00:28:49] immunity for his

[00:28:50] knowledge of the

[00:28:51] murder.

[00:28:52] It should be noted

[00:28:53] here that Al and

[00:28:55] Burton, they both

[00:28:56] deny even being in

[00:28:57] Belhaven that night.

[00:28:58] And there are no

[00:28:59] witnesses who saw

[00:29:00] them there.

[00:29:01] Al was a young

[00:29:03] black man and the

[00:29:04] Belhaven community

[00:29:05] was predominantly a

[00:29:06] white affluent

[00:29:07] community, so if he

[00:29:09] was there, it's

[00:29:10] likely that someone

[00:29:11] would have noticed.

[00:29:13] Also, there isn't

[00:29:14] any other evidence to

[00:29:15] connect either man to

[00:29:16] the murder.

[00:29:17] No DNA, no

[00:29:19] fingerprints, nothing.

[00:29:20] And so that would

[00:29:22] keep Michael in jail

[00:29:23] for now, but not

[00:29:25] for long.

[00:29:26] Michael hired a new

[00:29:27] attorney named

[00:29:28] Hubert Santos, and

[00:29:30] they argued

[00:29:31] ineffective counsel at

[00:29:32] his 2002 trial when

[00:29:34] he was represented by

[00:29:35] defense attorney

[00:29:36] Mickey Sherman.

[00:29:37] Their reasons

[00:29:38] included his former

[00:29:39] attorney leaving out

[00:29:40] a key witness who

[00:29:41] supported Michael's

[00:29:42] alibi.

[00:29:43] Michael claimed to

[00:29:44] be at his cousin's

[00:29:45] house at the time of

[00:29:46] the murder.

[00:29:46] Though his brothers

[00:29:48] and cousin could back

[00:29:49] him up on those

[00:29:50] claims, they obviously

[00:29:51] weren't taken very

[00:29:52] seriously because his

[00:29:54] family could easily

[00:29:55] just lie for him.

[00:29:56] However, there was

[00:29:57] another witness named

[00:29:59] Dennis Osorio, who

[00:30:00] was also at the cousin's

[00:30:02] residence that night.

[00:30:03] He had no relation

[00:30:05] to Michael and no real

[00:30:07] reason to lie for him.

[00:30:08] Yet, he was never

[00:30:09] interviewed or called

[00:30:11] to the stand by

[00:30:12] Michael's original

[00:30:13] lawyer.

[00:30:14] Michael also claimed

[00:30:15] that his former

[00:30:16] attorney failed to

[00:30:17] call other suspects in

[00:30:18] the murder case, like

[00:30:20] Tommy, Michael's

[00:30:21] brother, who just so

[00:30:22] happened to be the

[00:30:23] last person to see

[00:30:24] Martha alive.

[00:30:25] His testimony alone

[00:30:27] could have been enough

[00:30:28] to raise reasonable

[00:30:29] doubt to keep Michael

[00:30:30] out of jail.

[00:30:31] According to Michael,

[00:30:33] his press-loving

[00:30:34] attorney botched his

[00:30:35] entire trial.

[00:30:37] To the surprise of

[00:30:38] many, especially

[00:30:39] Martha's friends and

[00:30:40] family, the jury

[00:30:42] agreed and overturned

[00:30:43] his conviction.

[00:30:44] He walked out of

[00:30:46] prison as a free man

[00:30:47] after spending 11

[00:30:48] years behind bars.

[00:30:50] But his legal woes,

[00:30:51] they weren't over.

[00:30:53] In 2016, the

[00:30:55] Connecticut Supreme

[00:30:55] Court reinstated his

[00:30:57] conviction.

[00:30:58] Michael fought this

[00:30:59] ruling, and then the

[00:31:00] Connecticut Supreme

[00:31:01] Court reversed itself

[00:31:02] again.

[00:31:03] The judge ruled that

[00:31:05] Michael Skakel should

[00:31:06] have a new trial.

[00:31:07] But that day would

[00:31:09] never come.

[00:31:10] Ultimately, the

[00:31:11] state of Connecticut

[00:31:12] decided that they

[00:31:13] would not retry him

[00:31:15] for Martha Moxley's

[00:31:16] murder.

[00:31:17] For whatever reason,

[00:31:18] they felt like they

[00:31:20] just didn't have enough

[00:31:20] evidence to secure a

[00:31:22] conviction.

[00:31:23] So much time had

[00:31:25] passed since the

[00:31:25] murder that, out of

[00:31:27] the 51 potential

[00:31:28] witnesses, 17 of

[00:31:30] them were now dead,

[00:31:31] and there was no

[00:31:32] new forensic evidence

[00:31:34] that would actually

[00:31:35] help the case.

[00:31:36] No one else to this

[00:31:38] day has been charged

[00:31:39] with Martha's

[00:31:40] killing, meaning

[00:31:41] that after almost

[00:31:42] 50 years, her

[00:31:44] murder remains

[00:31:45] unsolved.

[00:31:46] Police suspect that

[00:31:48] either Michael or

[00:31:49] Tommy, who are now

[00:31:50] completely estranged

[00:31:51] from one another,

[00:31:52] one of them, or

[00:31:53] maybe even both of

[00:31:54] them, committed the

[00:31:55] crime, but they

[00:31:56] simply can't prove it.

[00:31:58] At the beginning of

[00:31:59] this year, in January,

[00:32:01] Michael sued the

[00:32:02] case's lead police

[00:32:03] investigator and the

[00:32:04] town of Greenwich

[00:32:05] for alleged malicious

[00:32:06] prosecution and civil

[00:32:08] rights violations.

[00:32:09] According to court

[00:32:11] records obtained by

[00:32:12] CBS, the defendants

[00:32:14] quote, knew that

[00:32:15] there were other

[00:32:16] more likely suspects

[00:32:17] and that there was

[00:32:19] no probable cause to

[00:32:20] arrest and or

[00:32:21] maintain a prosecution

[00:32:22] against the plaintiff,

[00:32:24] Michael Skakel, but

[00:32:25] continued to do so

[00:32:26] intentionally and

[00:32:27] maliciously in order

[00:32:29] to convict a

[00:32:30] Kennedy cousin.

[00:32:32] The lawsuit was

[00:32:33] seeking an unspecified

[00:32:34] amount of monetary

[00:32:35] compensation.

[00:32:36] However, I haven't

[00:32:38] seen any updates

[00:32:38] about whether it was

[00:32:39] settled outside of

[00:32:40] court or was being

[00:32:42] fought.

[00:32:43] So, what happened

[00:32:45] the night before

[00:32:45] Halloween in

[00:32:46] Belhaven?

[00:32:47] There's only one,

[00:32:49] maybe two people

[00:32:50] who know.

[00:32:51] Unfortunately, the

[00:32:52] truth has been

[00:32:53] buried for decades

[00:32:54] and unless money

[00:32:56] stops talking, we

[00:32:58] may never know

[00:32:59] who killed Martha.

[00:33:00] I'm going to end

[00:33:01] this episode with a

[00:33:02] short clip from

[00:33:03] Martha's mother,

[00:33:04] Dorothy, from an

[00:33:05] interview 10 years

[00:33:06] ago.

[00:33:06] I pray there

[00:33:08] will be a

[00:33:08] conviction in the

[00:33:09] case.

[00:33:10] I believe that

[00:33:11] prayers are

[00:33:12] answered.

[00:33:13] I really think

[00:33:14] that in this

[00:33:16] country today,

[00:33:19] there are too

[00:33:19] many crimes that

[00:33:21] are not punished

[00:33:22] and I think

[00:33:23] that the people

[00:33:25] are just taking

[00:33:27] advantage of

[00:33:28] this.

[00:33:29] You know,

[00:33:30] the moral fiber

[00:33:31] of the United

[00:33:31] States seems to

[00:33:32] be falling by

[00:33:34] the wayside

[00:33:35] because people

[00:33:37] are not

[00:33:37] punished for

[00:33:38] crimes that

[00:33:39] they do.

[00:33:40] I know

[00:33:41] maybe there

[00:33:42] are a lot of

[00:33:42] people that

[00:33:43] don't agree

[00:33:43] with me,

[00:33:44] but I think

[00:33:44] that we

[00:33:46] need to

[00:33:47] show people

[00:33:48] that you

[00:33:49] cannot do

[00:33:50] these things

[00:33:51] without being

[00:33:52] punished.

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