Beyond the Pages: Kouri Richins' Children's Book of Grief or a Calculated Cover-Up?

[00:00:00] The case featured in this episode has been researched using police records, court documents,

[00:00:05] witness statements and the news. Listener discretion is advised. All parties mentioned are

[00:00:11] innocent until proven guilty in all opinions are my own. Hey everyone, my name is Nikki Young

[00:00:37] and this is Serial Napper, the True Crime Podcast for Naps. I'm back with another true crime story

[00:00:43] to Lully to Sleep, or perhaps debut nightmares. In March of 2022, married couple Eric and Kouri

[00:00:51] Richins were celebrating at their Utah home. Kouri who was a real estate agent had closed

[00:00:57] on a house that she had planned to flip for her business. They put their three young boys to bed

[00:01:03] and then they had a few drinks including a Moscow mule that Kouri made for Eric to enjoy in bed.

[00:01:09] The couple then fell asleep with Eric sleeping in the master bedroom and Kouri sleeping in one of

[00:01:14] the boy's rooms because he often had night terrors. Around 3am the child woke up from a nightmare.

[00:01:22] According to Kouri, she suathed him back to sleep and then she returned to her bedroom where

[00:01:27] she found Eric unresponsive at the foot of their bed. In a panic, she called 911. However, it was too late

[00:01:35] and he was pronounced deceased at the scene. It was a really shocking situation. Eric had not even

[00:01:43] turned 40 years old yet, and he was a healthy young man. I'm going to say young because I'm

[00:01:48] almost 40. A not-opsy reveal that he had died from a fentanyl overdose and his wife believed

[00:01:55] that he may have consumed a fentanyl-lazed gummy. The family was devastated particularly their

[00:02:02] young children who were only between five and nine years old when their father passed. About a year

[00:02:08] after his death Kouri published a children's book called Are You With Me, which she had written in

[00:02:15] collaboration with their three sons. It was said to be a book written to quote,

[00:02:21] create peace and comfort for children who have lost a loved one. Kouri promoted the book on her

[00:02:27] new station, speaking about the grief that her children had experienced and how she hoped this book

[00:02:34] would help other children to process their own grief. Which is why you can imagine the shock

[00:02:41] felt amongst their family and community when Kouri richins was arrested and charged with her

[00:02:47] husband Eric's murder in May of 2023. So, dim the lights, put your phone down and listen to the

[00:02:57] months wrote a book to help her children process the death of their father but who now stands accused

[00:03:03] of his murder. So, let's jump right in. Eric Richins was many things. He was a family man,

[00:03:11] a good old country boy and a seriously successful entrepreneur. He had a lot going for him.

[00:03:19] Born to his parents, Jean and Linda on May 13th, 1982, he grew up in a bountiful Utah on

[00:03:25] his family's cattle ranch, meaning he learned from an early age the definition of a hard day's work.

[00:03:32] As the eldest child, he spent much of his time helping his father to feed the horses and cows

[00:03:37] and to keep up with the property. But above all else, he kept a watchful eye on his younger sisters,

[00:03:45] taking the role of big brother very seriously. In school, Eric was an athlete who played all kinds

[00:03:52] of sports, including baseball, soccer and running cross country. Once he had graduated,

[00:03:58] he devoted much of his time to coaching and mentoring other young boys. In his free time,

[00:04:05] which he had very little love, he loved anything and everything that he could do outdoors,

[00:04:10] like hunting, for wheeling and snowmobile-bealing. It's hard to imagine with such a

[00:04:16] impact schedule that he'd also be able to lead a successful career, but he did that too.

[00:04:23] Eric graduated from the University of Utah in international studies and then he built a highly

[00:04:29] successful masonry business. He was known to be a well-respected business partner and boss

[00:04:36] who built close relationships with everyone he worked with. He truly built his business

[00:04:42] from the ground up and the more success that he achieved, the more he wanted to help others achieve

[00:04:48] that same kind of success. It's just the kind of person that he was larger than life.

[00:04:54] As you can imagine, people gravitated towards Eric and there was no shortage of young ladies who

[00:05:00] might fancy him. He married his first wife Julie Jordanson in 2005, according to those who knew

[00:05:08] Julie was said to be one of the prettiest girls at school. Eric and Julie had a lot in common.

[00:05:16] They were both physically active and always on the go, enjoying sports like soccer and baseball

[00:05:21] and skiing. Unfortunately it was a whirlwind romance that didn't last too long and the couple ended

[00:05:29] up divorcing just four years later in 2009. It was said to be kind of a messy divorce with Eric

[00:05:37] getting the short end of the stick financially as his assets were divided between the two.

[00:05:42] Nobody gets into a marriage thinking that they'll ever get divorced and have to give up half

[00:05:47] what they've worked for but it was a difficult lesson that Eric wouldn't forget. Just a few

[00:05:53] years after the divorce was finalized, Eric's ex-wife Julie would tragically die in a horrific

[00:06:00] car crash. While she was sitting at a red light, she was re-rendered by a pick-up truck

[00:06:07] that crashed into her going 70 miles per hour or around 113 kilometers per hour. The driver was

[00:06:14] under the influence of marijuana and because it happened on a frosty January day, his windshield

[00:06:20] was covered in frost and he just didn't bother to wait for it too defrost. The driver was actually

[00:06:30] a tragedy that broke his heart, one of many to come. A few years later Eric found himself having

[00:06:38] a bit of a crash on a cashier named Corey who worked at their local home depot. With his stone

[00:06:45] measonry business, he was in the store a lot he practically lived there. Everyone who worked at

[00:06:51] the store knew Eric by name and he was a well-liked customer. According to another home depot employee

[00:06:58] named Linda King, he'd always walk into the store with a big smile on his face. Linda would say,

[00:07:05] quote, you could never forget his laugh. I loved that laugh so much. He would come into my line all

[00:07:11] the time. When Linda noticed the way that Eric would look at Corey another cashier, she told

[00:07:18] him that he should find the courage to go and talk to her. Eventually, he did, striking up a

[00:07:24] conversation with her while she worked the cash register. He was said to be too nervous to ask for

[00:07:30] her phone number directly, so he had a friend do it and eventually he asked her out on a day.

[00:07:36] Corey was a pretty brunette who was about six or seven years younger than Eric. She was still

[00:07:42] very much trying to figure out what she wanted to do with her life and just starting to make plans

[00:07:47] for her future career, but she admired Eric's ambition and dedication to running his own

[00:07:54] successful business. She really looked up to him. The two were inseparable from the day that they met,

[00:08:01] and Corey's brother would later say that Eric fit perfectly into their family.

[00:08:06] Eric was good for Corey. She had a lot of dreams and goals, but Eric showed her that truly anything

[00:08:13] was possible if she put in the hard work. While they were dating, Corey enrolled at Weber State University,

[00:08:20] working towards a Bachelor of Science in Health Care Administration. Life was really good for the

[00:08:26] couple who in 2012 moved into this beautiful enormous home in the town of Francis U.T.

[00:08:35] This mansion was an absolute dream. Five bedrooms, four bathrooms, valued at more than $1.1 million

[00:08:44] and purchased by Eric who was now earning around 1 million a year in revenue from his company.

[00:08:51] About a year later on June 15, 2013, Eric and Corey would tie the knot in the backyard of this

[00:08:57] incredible property. Before saying their vows, Corey agreed to sign a pre-nobrol agreement

[00:09:04] that stated, if they were to divorce, she would not be entitled to any money made from his business.

[00:09:12] At the time, Eric's business was worth approximately 2.5 million and quickly growing. The couple

[00:09:19] agreed that if they were to divorce, neither of them would be able to lay claim to any of each

[00:09:25] others present or future income in assets. However, Corey would be entitled to some of his assets,

[00:09:32] including her husband's partnership interest if he were to die before her during their marriage.

[00:09:38] After losing half of his estate in his last divorce, Eric thought that this was the right move,

[00:09:45] but he had no idea that this pre-nobrol agreement could be a motive for his demise.

[00:09:52] Of course, at the time he wasn't thinking about any of that. He believed that he had found

[00:09:57] the love of his life and they were looking at building a future together. This future included

[00:10:03] having three sons, Carter Ashton and Weston. According to those who knew him, Eric's greatest

[00:10:11] achievement in life was being a father. The boys idolized him just as much as he idolized them.

[00:10:18] Corey and Eric built a beautiful life together, with Eric thriving in his business

[00:10:24] and Corey starting her own real estate company where she would flip houses for profit.

[00:10:30] They travel the world together and truly they seemed like the couple that had it all.

[00:10:36] But things were not always as they appeared. As early as 2015, Corey began having financial troubles

[00:10:44] within her real estate business. She wanted to move houses faster than her profits would allow,

[00:10:50] so it's alleged that she began to take money from Eric to continue buying and flipping homes.

[00:10:56] Eric was aware of some of the money that she was taking, but at times it's alleged she did things

[00:11:02] behind his back even forging his signature. In March 2019, it's alleged that Corey opened a revolving

[00:11:10] line of credit with Eric as the co-signer and she forged his signature. She borrowed approximately

[00:11:16] $250,000 in his name. She forged paperwork assigning her power of attorney over Eric's affairs.

[00:11:25] And then she spent $30,000 on his credit cards and withdrew another $100,000 from his bank accounts.

[00:11:32] In total, it's alleged that Corey stole approximately $494,000 of Eric's money.

[00:11:40] We're not talking pocket-changing and I'm not sure how Corey thought that she would continue to

[00:11:45] do this under the radar. Maybe she thought it would be better to ask for forgiveness instead of

[00:11:51] permission. Eventually Eric did learn all about the money that was being spent on his cards and in

[00:11:56] his name while he was at an appointment with the bank, and he confronted Corey about it.

[00:12:02] She promised to pay it all back as soon as she had flipped the homes and made a profit.

[00:12:07] But that day would never come. Things were getting really tense in their marriage

[00:12:13] and it didn't help that there were rumors swirling around town that Corey was having an affair.

[00:12:19] There wasn't any concrete proof, just small town whispers. Not enough for anyone to actually

[00:12:25] step in and tell Eric about it, especially because they had three little ones to read about

[00:12:30] and they didn't want to break up a family. Then something really odd happened that

[00:12:36] alarmed Eric and it made him suspicious of his wife's intentions.

[00:12:42] While they were on a family vacation in Greece, he called his sister and he told her that

[00:12:47] he had become violently ill after drinking an alcoholic beverage that Corey had made him.

[00:12:53] He went as far as to say on the phone that he thought that Corey may have poisoned him.

[00:12:58] He didn't want to believe that she could do such a thing but he couldn't escape the idea that

[00:13:04] maybe his wife was trying to kill him. Maybe he was worth more to her dead than alive.

[00:13:12] In October 2020, he decided that it was time to consult a divorce lawyer and a state planning lawyer.

[00:13:20] Without telling Corey, he changed his will. He created a living trust and he gave his sister

[00:13:26] Katie Richens Benson control of his estate. He changed the beneficiary of his $500,000

[00:13:33] life insurance policy from his wife to the trust and he transferred his 50% business

[00:13:39] partnership interest to the trust. Meaning if anything were to happen to him,

[00:13:44] everything would go to this trust not his wife and his sister Katie would be in control of it.

[00:13:51] Eric wasn't asking for a divorce just yet but he was making plans to ensure that his children

[00:13:57] would be taking care of. Above all else, he just wanted his boys to be okay no matter what happened.

[00:14:05] While Corey continued to spiral into debt to the tune of more than 3.1 million,

[00:14:11] Eric's business continued to grow to around 5 million. He had everything to lose and his marriage

[00:14:18] was continuing to fall apart. Eric and Corey would constantly argue about finances and whether or not

[00:14:25] they should be together for the boys. While their marriage appeared to be coming to an end,

[00:14:31] things dried out longer than they should have and Corey kind of appeared to become desperate.

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[00:14:44] it. Now back to our story. On Valentine's Day 2022, she made her husband a romantic

[00:14:55] meal, a sandwich which she placed on the seat of his truck along with a love note. But when Eric ate

[00:15:02] the sandwich, he immediately broke out in hives and he couldn't breathe. In a panic he ran into

[00:15:08] their home and he grabbed their sons EpiPendi use. Once again, Eric confided in a friend about what had

[00:15:15] happened and how he believed that Corey was trying to intentionally poison him. Why he would eat

[00:15:21] anything that this woman cooked for him kind of baffles me? Maybe he thought that he was just

[00:15:26] being paranoid about the drink in Greece. Maybe it was wishful thinking that his wife wanted to

[00:15:32] fix things between them and this was a romantic gesture. Maybe he should have listened to that

[00:15:38] little voice in the back of his head, screaming that something didn't feel right.

[00:15:44] Less than a month later on March 3rd 2022, the couple would put their three boys down to bed

[00:15:51] and then have a few drinks. According to Corey, they were celebrating the closing of a home

[00:15:56] that she had just purchased for $2 million which she had planned to flip for profit. Other family

[00:16:03] members would later disagree with this statement instead saying that Eric, he had actually

[00:16:08] disagreed with buying this property and he was telling Corey that she shouldn't buy it.

[00:16:13] Either way, Corey said that she made her husband a Moscow meal and brought it up to him in bed.

[00:16:19] He drank it and then he took a teach C. gummy, which she often did when he wanted to relax

[00:16:24] at the end of the day or get a good night's sleep. Then she went to sleep in one of their

[00:16:30] boys rooms because he often suffered from night terrors. According to Corey, she was

[00:16:36] woken up at around 3am because her son had a nightmare. She calmed the child down and then she

[00:16:42] walked into her master bedroom to climb into her own bed and that's when she says she found her

[00:16:48] husband Eric, unresponsive at the foot of the bed. Corey called 911 and she was instructed on how to

[00:16:55] perform CPR which she would say that she attempted. When emergency services arrived on the scene,

[00:17:02] they noted that Eric was bleeding from his mouth and they didn't believe that Corey had actually

[00:17:07] performed CPR because she didn't have any blood on her. Eric was pronounced dead at the scene.

[00:17:15] How did this healthy, active 39 year old man suddenly die in the middle of the night?

[00:17:22] An autopsy would provide insight but it would also lead to more questions and answers.

[00:17:28] Eric had more than five times the lethal amount of fentanyl in his system when he died. He had

[00:17:34] died from an overdose but how did the fentanyl get into Eric's system? Corey had a possible explanation.

[00:17:42] Eric had taken a THC gummy that evening which he often did but he didn't always get his

[00:17:48] gummies from the most reputable of people. It was possible that the gummy he had taken that evening

[00:17:54] was actually laced with illegal fentanyl and that he had accidentally overdosed just a tragic accident.

[00:18:02] His family and especially his three-on children were devastated they were broken.

[00:18:09] Eric's obituary red quote, words can't describe the loneliness and loss that is felt in every

[00:18:15] heart that was lucky enough to know him. We all need to learn from Eric's example and be sure

[00:18:21] to make the time to have fun and do what we love. Thank you, Rico for being such an inspiration

[00:18:27] and role model for us all. We love you, Eric, with all our hearts and more. Eric's family wasn't so

[00:18:34] sure about this explanation involving the gummy and the fentanyl. It just didn't make sense to them.

[00:18:40] Eric wasn't a heavy drug user. Sure, he enjoyed THC gummies which he bought frequently but the

[00:18:47] idea that this time he got one that was laced with illegal fentanyl not even the medical grade

[00:18:53] it just didn't sit right with them. Just 48 hours after his death, a battle of truth and power

[00:19:00] would be waged between Eric's family and his wife Corey. There were several family members,

[00:19:06] including Eric's sister Katie who decided to spend the night at the Richen's family home following

[00:19:11] Eric's death. According to Corey she asked if they could leave so that she could have time alone

[00:19:18] and begin the grieving process. However, Katie refused insisting that Corey did not own the home

[00:19:26] which was in Eric's name alone and that she would be kicked out of it soon enough. Allegedly,

[00:19:32] Corey hired a locksmith to come to the home and drill into Eric's safe which had over $125,000

[00:19:40] in cash in it. Eric's sister Katie stepped in to tell her to leave the safe alone because

[00:19:46] she was no longer in charge of his estate and according to police reports that's when Corey

[00:19:51] became angry and actually punched Katie in the face and the neck resulting in the sheriff's

[00:19:57] office being called. It was a tense emotional situation with Corey learning that she was no longer

[00:20:05] in control of her husband's estate and that he had removed her from everything behind her back.

[00:20:12] This would be the beginning of a battle to see who would truly benefit from Eric's business

[00:20:18] and life insurance policies. In February 2023, Corey filed a claim against Eric's trust,

[00:20:26] contesting Eric's sister as being the one in control of the estate. She stated that the terms

[00:20:32] of their prenapped should still stand. That in the event of Eric's death if they were still married,

[00:20:38] she would be entitled to a percentage of his assets. In her claim she reported that it was both

[00:20:45] her and Eric who purchased the large mansion together, stating that she had also financially contributed

[00:20:51] to the down payment as well as the monthly mortgage payments. This has been a claim that Eric's sister

[00:20:57] Katie has disputed all along, asserting that Corey did not make any contribution to the home,

[00:21:03] which was purchased prior to their marriage. She also asked the court to dismiss Corey's claims

[00:21:09] due to the suspicious way in which her brother died and it's true, the police, they were

[00:21:16] investigating Eric's death further. They believe that it might be more than just an accidental overdose.

[00:21:24] While Eric's estate was battled over through the courts, Corey decided to write each

[00:21:29] children's book called Are You With Me, which inside the cover says is dedicated to quote,

[00:21:35] "'My amazing husband and a wonderful father.' It was posted for sale on Amazon,

[00:21:42] and the description of the book said to create peace and comfort for children who have lost a loved one.

[00:21:48] Corey would promote her new book on several local media outlets including ABC 4 News where she said

[00:21:55] quote, it completely took us all by shock. We have three little boys, 10, 9 and 6, and my kids

[00:22:03] and 9 kind of wrote this book on the different emotions and grieving processes that we have

[00:22:07] experienced in the last year. I went on Amazon and Barnes and Noble to try to find something

[00:22:13] to help us cope at night. Nights are the hardest. I just wanted some story to read my kids at night

[00:22:20] and I couldn't find anything that suited them, so I was like, let's just write one."

[00:22:26] So you actually wrote this book with your children? I did. And it's only been a year. How did

[00:22:31] you process and say, go from processing death to I need to write a book and help others?

[00:22:39] You know, I just watched the struggle that my kids were going through and I actually,

[00:22:43] you know, I went on Amazon and Barnes and Noble and trying to find something that we could use to

[00:22:48] cope at nights. Nights are the hardest. It seems like for everybody when you know dealing with anything.

[00:22:53] But I just wanted some story to read to my kids at night and I just could not find anything.

[00:22:59] I couldn't find anything that really, you know, suited them or help them find comfort and peace.

[00:23:03] And so, you know, I was like, let's just write one."

[00:23:07] The book is no longer available on Amazon and that likely has to do with the fact that

[00:23:13] shortly after the release of this book, Corey Richens was arrested for aggravated murder

[00:23:18] and three counts of possession of drugs with intent to distribute.

[00:23:23] Prosecutors believe that Corey killed her husband Eric for financial gain, believing that

[00:23:29] she was entitled to his estate after his passing. She was well over $1 million in debt from

[00:23:36] her business dealings and already planning a new future with the man that she had been carrying on

[00:23:42] of an affair with. Corey has pled not guilty to all of these charges, including additional

[00:23:48] charges that have since been brought against her, including attempted aggravated murder and fraud.

[00:23:54] It was revealed that in January 2022, just months before his death, Corey had logged into

[00:24:02] Eric's $2 million life insurance policy and altered it. The original and beneficiary on this

[00:24:08] policy was Eric's business partner but Corey changed it to make her the only beneficiary

[00:24:14] without authorization. Eric was alerted to this change and luckily he was able to change it

[00:24:21] before his death. However, just one month later, Corey applied for a new $100,000 life insurance

[00:24:29] policy on Eric without his knowledge. The motive was evident. Corey was deeply in debt and she

[00:24:37] wouldn't get a single penny as per the pre-nup agreement if they were divorced. However, she would

[00:24:43] receive a sizable sum if Eric were to die while they were still married. That is, if Eric hadn't

[00:24:50] become suspicious of her behavior and changed his policies to make his sister the distributor of his

[00:24:56] assets. After Eric's death, a search warrant was executed which included Corey's phone and several

[00:25:03] computers that were located in the home. These devices contained a treasure trove of information

[00:25:09] that would help the prosecution to build their case. Investigators found a slew of messages

[00:25:15] between Corey and a housekeeper named Carmen Lauber, where Corey was making arrangements to purchase

[00:25:22] sentinel on three separate occasions. When the police interview Lauber, she confirmed that

[00:25:29] she had sold Corey as many as 90 pain and fentanyl pills beginning in January 2022. Just before

[00:25:37] the event that happened on Valentine's Day when Eric thought that she had poisoned him with that

[00:25:45] alleged failed attempt, messages were found from Corey asking to purchase something stronger, quote,

[00:25:52] some of the Michael Jackson stuff. And there were many more incriminating messages.

[00:25:59] Although Corey had attempted to delete her text messages from the night her husband died,

[00:26:04] there were some that were recovered. She was found to regularly text message a man named Robert Grossman,

[00:26:11] who investigators believed was the guy that she was having an affair with. Grossman had

[00:26:16] worked as a handy man on repair jobs at the homes that Corey would flip, so they worked very closely

[00:26:22] together. They spent a ton of time together and Corey was able to use that as an excuse to go see

[00:26:28] this guy. She would just say she was working on her homes. One of the messages that was recovered

[00:26:34] was a photo that Corey had sent him showing two people kissing and a caption that said, I love you.

[00:26:40] This was sent just shortly before it's alleged she made that drink that would ultimately kill her

[00:26:46] husband Eric. Unfortunately, there are many other key messages on her phone that may never be recovered.

[00:26:54] Corey also claimed that her phone had remained plugged in in her bedroom that evening, but when

[00:27:00] investigators reviewed movement on the phone, it showed that it had been locked in unlocked several

[00:27:06] times and that messages were exchanged messages that have been lost forever unfortunately.

[00:27:13] There were also several searches made from her device, though the prosecution says supports their

[00:27:19] theory, including what is illegal dose of fentanyl luxury prisons for the rich in America.

[00:27:26] Death certificate says pending will life insurance still pay? Ken cops force you to do

[00:27:32] lie detector test? How to permanently delete information from an iPhone remotely?

[00:27:39] Corey's defense attorney says that these searches mean absolutely nothing. She was simply

[00:27:44] researching her case at a curiosity just to see how evidence is processed. And I guess I kind of

[00:27:50] understand that. I mean if somebody were to confiscate my phone now and look at all of the searches

[00:27:55] that I've conducted, I look like a very guilty person who has done a lot of bad things.

[00:28:00] But it's for research purposes. At least I have a true crime podcast to prove it.

[00:28:06] While it was debated whether or not the prosecution would seek the death penalty,

[00:28:10] an announcement was made last year that after consulting Eric's family they will not seek the

[00:28:15] death penalty. Instead if Corey is found guilty, it would be punishable with 25 years to life in prison.

[00:28:23] Which in my opinion is a much worse sentence. In September of last year while sitting behind bars,

[00:28:31] something interesting was found in Corey Rich and Cell and there's been a lot of debate over

[00:28:36] what it means. It's known as the Walk the Dog Letter, which is exactly what it says at the top of

[00:28:43] the note. Some believe the note is instructions are family on how they should testify in court,

[00:28:50] which is considered witness-tamboring. The letter written by Corey instructs her mother to get her

[00:28:57] brother to say that Eric got the drugs that killed him in Mexico. Now obviously this looks like

[00:29:03] witness-tamboring, which is what the prosecutors alleged. But Corey's defense team actually claims

[00:29:09] that this isn't a letter at all. No, it's part of a fictional mystery book that Corey was writing

[00:29:17] about being imprisoned in Mexico. Do with that information what you will? But the defense tried

[00:29:23] to have her case dismissed on this basis, citing that she wouldn't receive a fair trial,

[00:29:28] now that the Walk the Dog Letter had been released to the public. Thankfully that was denied

[00:29:33] and the trial will move forward. In May of this year, Corey released her first public statement

[00:29:39] since her arrest. She once again claimed to be innocent of all charges, and she also asked for

[00:29:46] the world to give her a chance. Her trial, which will be judged by jury, is set for April of 2025.

[00:29:54] So this is still very much an ongoing case, and one that I'm going to be following closely.

[00:30:00] The real tragedy here is that there is a strong possibility that Eric and Corey's three boys

[00:30:06] will ultimately lose both of their parents if their mother is convicted.

[00:30:11] They're currently being raised by family members and shielded from all of this as best

[00:30:16] as possible, but one day when they're older, they're going to have the chance to read all the

[00:30:23] allegations and how even their father believed that their mother was trying to kill him.

[00:30:29] But they'll also read about how, despite it all, he tried to protect them and to set them up

[00:30:35] financially for the future. So what about that book are you with me, which depicts Eric as an

[00:30:42] angel who is watching over his young sons after his death? It's now believed that the book

[00:30:49] it could have been an attempt by Corey to cover up her motive and actions and true feelings about

[00:30:55] his death, which if true might be one of the most twisted things that Corey has done to date,

[00:31:02] to profit off of your children's pain and then to paint yourself as a victim when you are

[00:31:08] in fact the perpetrator and source of that pain? It's sifting. But let me know what you think.

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